The Deeper Well
Church Well Co exits to create spaces of brave relationships for pastors and church leaders. Sometimes those are spaces of brave community, like our Pastoral Care Groups and SLOW Communities. And sometimes we need space for ourselves to attend to what is transpiring with in us, individually. That is where The Deeper Well comes in.
The Deeper Well is the soul care center for Church Well Co comprised of Therapeutic Pastoral Guides and Spiritual Directors. Our practitioners provide individual attentiveness and care for pastors, leaders, and followers of Jesus to attend to their journey and the presence of God along the way.
a soul care center
Therapeutic Pastoral Guidance
Therapeutic Pastoral Guidance (TPG) is a therapeutically informed, spiritually rooted mentorship experience into which our whole selves and full story is welcomed to be seen, to find meaning, and to find the keys to unlock the doors before us. Drawing from the worlds of counseling practices, spiritual direction, and mentorship, our Therapeutic Pastoral Guides walk with individuals into healing toward the integration of their whole selves.
Therapeutic Pastoral Guidance is
Therapeutic in the way we pay attention to the pain in our lives and stories, integrate our experiences, and find meaning in our lives,
Pastoral in the way we attend to the presence of God past, present and future, and
Guidance in the way we are attentive to the opportunities for healing, growth, and forward movement.
You might consider it a bit like the intersection of therapy, spiritual direction, and mentorship.
Therapeutic Pastoral Guidance is available as a stand-alone sessions (to navigate a specific issue), a 8-10 session series (to work through something more complicated), or in an ongoing manner as companionship on your path of life.
While all of our Therapeutic Pastoral Guides are educated and clinically trained as counselors, Therapeutic Pastoral Guidance is not therapy. It does not diagnose or treat mental health disorders nor is it appropriate for working through recent or active trauma. It is a process designed to facilitate emotional, relational, and spiritual healing through deep attentiveness, meaning making, and exploration of story and experience.
Our Therapeutic Pastoral Guides
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BrianJames McMahon
FOUNDER OF CHURCH WELL CO
Cost: $150/sessionBrianJames is licensed as both a pastor and a marriage and family therapist. He works with pastors, therapists, and entrepreneurs to find healing from pain, overcome barriers to connection, unlock potential, and grow into who they are becoming.
He up on the mission field in Southeast Asia and has spent significant seasons of his life in Seattle and Los Angeles where he pastored and church planted prior to relocating to Kansas City where he currently resides with his wife and children.
BrianJames is the founder of Church Well Co providing therapeutic pastoral guidance, consulting, and trainings for pastors, leaders, and organizations to develop cultures and environments that are emotionally and relationally safe(r) for their people. At his core he longs to see the Church vibrant and healthy. His experience growing up between cultures and in a variety of contexts has shaped his value of the unique expression of God found in each person.
He holds a BA from Seattle Pacific University in Holistic Education and an MS in Marriage and Family Therapy from Fuller Theological Seminary.
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Kevin Dolbee
Cost: $105/sessionKevin is an ordained pastor and an Associate Professional Clinical Counselor.
Kevin grew up in Santa Fe Springs, CA, and began his journey with Jesus as a high school student in the ‘80s. Soon after, Kevin met his high school sweetheart; they have been married for over 30 years and have three adult children. Being a passionate fan of the Raiders, Kevin has learned the virtues of patience and long-suffering.
After a future shaping season in the Navy, including Operation Desert Storm and a stint on Coronado Island as a Yeoman , Kevin completed a Bachelor of Theology degree at Escondido Bible college, a Master of Arts in Strategic Leadership from Life Pacific University, and a Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling program through Townsend Institute at Concordia University Irvine.
Kevin has served the Foursquare Church as a pastor since 1998 in various roles, including youth pastor, church planter, and Sr. Pastor and the Church Health and Transitions specialist in the former Pacific Southwest District or Foursquare Churches.
Kevin’s desire for his life is to be an emotionally healthy, loving, inspirational leader and mentor, helping others reach their full potential in Christ.
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Kalli Davis
Cost: $105/session
Kalli is an Associate Professional Clinical Counselor, holding a B.A. in Biblical Studies and an M.A. in Professional Counseling. She is also an ordained minister and currently serves as a co-lead pastor. She has pastored in multiple capacities in Oklahoma and Los Angeles. Holding a deep conviction that everyone is created in the image of God, inherently worthy and valuable, she understands each client to be the expert of their own story. Therefore, it is an immense privilege and passion of hers to witness and hold space for another.
Having my own difficult experiences with transition, religious trauma, addictive systems, and mental health I understand the complexity, isolation, and devastating impact of these events. While it can feel overwhelming, there is hope and an important story to be written. Through relationship healing, transformation, and purpose can be realized once again.
Spiritual Direction
Spiritual Direction is a process rooted in relationship through which a trained spiritual guide listens to and companions someone who desires a deeper relationship with God. For those who identify as Christians, this means becoming more like Jesus. Richard Foster, a Christian theologian and author defined spiritual direction as “an interpersonal relationship in which we learn how to grow, live, and love in the spiritual life.”
The spiritual director is trained to listen, discern and sometimes ask questions. The task of the spiritual director is to diligently pay attention to the person’s story and the Spirit, and to encourage spiritual growth. Spiritual direction is not counseling, friendship, mentoring, teaching nor discipling. It is the commitment to discover what God is doing in a person’s life and to help that person come closer to Christ.
Each of our Directors is trained in the practices of spiritual direction in addition to their training and experience pastoring.
Our Spiritual Directors
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James Knight
DIRECTOR OF THE DEEPER WELL
Cost: $75/sessionJames Knight is an ordained pastor and a trained spiritual director. In both spaces, James seeks to be present with people in ways that fosters growing attentiveness and responsiveness to Jesus.
It was during a difficult season of unanticipated transition and confusion that James heard the Spirit say, “I did not call you to the tasks of ministry, I called to you myself!” While the roles in James’ life did not change, that invitation caused a deep heart shift in James as he began the journey of living into his identity as the Beloved of God. It is a life that desires to be lived out of God’s love, not one of striving for it. The gift of receiving spiritual direction has been a central component of this journey. It is a gift that James now delights in offering to others, especially fellow ministry leaders.
James holds a bachelor’s from Northpoint Bible College, an M.Div. from Ashland Theological Seminary, and a two-year certificate in Spiritual Direction from The PAX Center for Spiritual Formation. He lives in Millbury, MA. James currently co-pastors a church with his wife in the nearby town of Uxbridge. Together with their two boys they love hiking, traveling all over New England (and beyond) and connecting with their friends, family, and community.
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Craig Hinca
SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR
Cost: $50/sessionCraig is a curator of space and relationship—that is what drew him to serve in the local church to provide space for others to gather and find relationship with Jesus and each other. He has over 25 years serving as a pastor and was able to do so in a full-time capacity.
He is ordained pastor and spiritual director whose focus to come alongside leaders, churches and organizations currently as a consultant.
Craig’s heart is to provide safe spaces for all leaders, but he holds a particular care for the leaders who are experiencing transitions, whether that is between roles or at the conclusion of a season of ministry and leadership.
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Cammie Wilson
SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR
Cost: $110/sessionCammie Wilson is an ordained pastor and pastor’s wife, as well as a certified and trained spiritual director, spiritual formation coach, and enneagram coach. She is the founder and operator of Cammie Wilson Coaching and Spiritual Direction, in North Carolina, where she has the privilege of living out her deep love and appreciation of partnering with others on their own unique journey to live an authentic and purposeful life of greater emotional and spiritual health, wholeness, and joy.
The greatest call on Cammie’s life is that of being a beloved child of God, wife, mother, “Lola”, and friend. She has been married and serving with her husband, Stan for 39+ years. A former “relationship avoider,” she now loves to listen, learn, encourage, and participate in great conversations, as she believes true connection is truly being in God’s presence.